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Darrell Clukey's avatar

In this instance pleasure could be considered a synonym of happiness. "Pleasure and pain, happiness and sorrow" is a phrase I use to describe the results of our satisfying/not-satisfying our "desires and expectations." Like you infer, if we can separate ourselves from "desires" then joy can replace "pleasure and pain, happiness and sorrow." This enables us to hold peace of heart in all situations.

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Bob Hartman's avatar

A few thoughts about your treatment of joy and happiness. I do believe you can seek joy by simply honoring the present moments in our being giving full attention to whatever is happening in the “now” of our consciousness. In this way the unconscious struggles will dissolve and our actions then can free flow full of love and compassion. If we can separate the “desires” of life away from the action we might be able to enjoy the stillness and peace of the conscious moment. Don’t attach ourselves to the desires/goals and enjoy the calmness of the present absent of the regrets of the past and the anticipation of the future. Enjoy the peace and calmness of the present moment.

Secondly, where does pleasure fit in the joy vs happiness discussion or is it simply a synonym to happiness?

In Spirit, Bob

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